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on the smartest ways to get them made as quickly as pock. >> and i feel like america knows we need to make the changes. medicare has never been changed since it was first put into place. you know, what do you think it's going to take to actually get things done here? i -- does it surprise you that we don't have a deal yet at this time in the calendar? >> i don't know that it surprises me we don't have a deal yet because the unfortunate truth about washington negotiations is anything hard doesn't tend to happen until the very last moment, and let me be honest about that. that has real economic consequences and costs. it's already harm our economy that we're waiting so long, but what i really think we need to see, and you're right, voters outside of washington understand these issues, but we need real honest discussion with the people people where instead of both side pretending that you can get this without the tough choices and going back to the bases and saying there are things you don't like and instead of the conversation always being us and them, two sides fighting it out instead of th
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